OfficeHours:Moderation-Team:2022-06-19

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The Neos Moderation Team's Weekly office hours.

Here are the notes from 19 June 2022.

These are rough notes typed by CanadianGit, shamelessly stealing ProbablePrime's formatting. If there are errors please edit away!

Summary

Please do remember to check our Roadmaps as a lot of questions here are partially covered there. Do continue to ask them but the roadmaps are there for you to read:

Please make tickets! We love tickets!.


The next Moderation Team Office hours will be back next week!


Questions

Jack — Today at 16:08 Why are only female nipples adult content? I feel like perhaps generalizing to nipples in general might be a good idea it would make enforcing this easier. I've seen plenty of avatars that are rather hard to classify as either female or male

  • We recognize this is a double standard, and there are a number of folks on the moderation and dev team interested in removing it. However, we would like to make sure that when we remove it we have the tools in place to allow users to curate what they see and when they see it. We expect to revisit the guidelines surrounding this as content tagging is introduced to development.

rampa_3 (UTC +1, DST UTC +2) — Today at 16:12 Suggestion for when you do the tagging - how about allowing users to restrict content spawnable in worlds by tag? Could work for gams to allow only content designed for them, or restricting 18+ stuff.

  • A good suggestion, but best to be sent in on the Github now, or when development turns to produce the content tagging system.

I'm Erin. — Today at 16:13 Mentor questions here too? Do you feel there will be any changes to the mentor system due to the player count slowly going down as of lately? Like the number of mentors for example or if you will be recruiting more

  • No - moderators are recruited based on need, but mentors are simply users volunteering to help out, they can apply at any time.

epicEaston197 — Today at 16:14 Q: even with this tagging system will NSFW content always needs to be in a private session?

  • We'll be revisiting the guidelines when the content tagging system comes out. Depending on how it is implemented we may see significant changes to the current standard.

ĐɆⱤ₱ł₵łĐ₳Ⱡ — Today at 16:16 So based on the post about the NSFW update, nipples are allowed to be shown on "femboy" styalized avatars?

  • Correct. If a report is submitted for such an avatar, moderation will attempt to assess if the character is clearly female, and only if so will we consider it against the guidelines.

rampa_3 (UTC +1, DST UTC +2) — Today at 16:17 Brings up also a question how to age verify - sending photos of ID is for example not a standard thing in Europe and could make people uncomfortable... At least so is my knowledge.

  • We anticipate the use of a third party application, but have no announcements at this stage.

DoubleStyx — Today at 16:18 Why does 1a. specifically mention dynamic bones in the context of genitalia? If genitalia is already considered adult content, how does the presence of dynamic bones affect the classification of such content?

  • The restriction on dynamic bones only applies to reproductive organs.
  • Furthermore, if a user made use of an avatar with no definition in the genitalia, just a shapeless lump, it would be fine. If they applied dynamic bones in that case, it would then qualify as adult content.


ĐɆⱤ₱ł₵łĐ₳Ⱡ — Today at 16:18 What about when the user doesn't identify directly as a female yet has a more "female style femboy" avatar that isn't actually a female nor does the user identify as a female directly but that middle ground where they identify with their avatar both IRL / In neos as Trans MtF?

The avatar has a more hourglass figure, yet no breasts or cleavage / jiggle physics.

  • Moderation does not attempt to identify the gender of the user or incorporate it into the evaluation of the avatar. If it not appear to be female, or moderation is unable to make a certain judgement, it will not be restricted.

聖なる人 (Holy) — Today at 16:19 Why is "visibly defined" in the new guidelines, it's still being downloaded by people even if it's hidden/not visible?

  • Adult Content in the mesh remains against the guidelines. A mesh obscured by another mesh is still viewed as adult content.

Irick — Today at 16:23 I have some concerns about the way the gender presentation is being considered as part of this policy, but I don't feel I have the space to do so here. I will attempt to articulate these concerns later in an open letter.

  • We appreciate it.

Swefn the Tired — Today at 16:23 So, what is the view on avatars with suggestive style attire? Ie: A female avatar with "pasties" (tape) over where nipples would be? Since that is usually associated with "strippers" and such.

  • We make no attempt to evaluate clothing, if the avatar meets the requirements as outline in the guidelines, it's fine.

ĐɆⱤ₱ł₵łĐ₳Ⱡ — Today at 16:28 How would "furry or fluffy" areas over the groin area be defined? Would that be considered attracting attention to that area purposefully?

  • Yes, as long as there is no defined outline in the mesh or explicit mesh that is simply obscured.